Group Lead, Ved Krishna
Cellulotech CEO Romain Metivet met Ved at a Hack Food Summit – where an unexpected conversation around packaging started – and a year later – has continued on the Good Garbage podcast. Learn about Romain’s journey to Cellulotech – and why the work they’re doing has us excited. Cellulotech is a lea
0:00 – challenges we face um I started my career more again on markets...
hello hello I’m so happy today to have Roman metet with me who’s the founder and CEO of cellular Tech uh Roma if you remember we met at hack Summit in Switzerland and I was totally blown away and I was not so the hack Summit for the listeners is not a packaging Summit at all it’s a food Summit and I wasn’t expecting to meet packaging people there b
11:00 – the industry here all the big names in the paper packaging industry...
for something maybe I felt could be big to do the step right the right right opportunity to really do the step and not just become entrepreneur for becoming an entrepreneur um and hence the opportunity came up um when I doing my research on as I said on you know how to improve Sal the functionalization and um I naturally came about the idea of okay
22:00 – technology in 2000s it was a rough period for the paper industry...
can cut you can fold the paper you still have the barrier it doesn’t crack because you you put this tiny molecules of fat and to give you an idea um now at this time was probably more but now we put something between 20 and 100 milligrams of reagent per square meter so this is dozens of times less than coding in terms of grammage um and of course w
33:00 – end of the paper meal or the paper machine the the paper...
humidity level of fine but um no we work at on the Reel of paper on a sheet of paper the final one um because simply the reagent we use are are sensitive to water so if you put water basically it will um liquid water on it directly it will degrade and not not be useful anymore so yeah we work on on the papers that comes from the meal um but you men
44:00 – with the paper or with other materials then you go into regulations...
some applications is the resistance to water that is higher than the recycle one and we can get rid of that uh I mean Sol this issue basically for the recycle content so it’s um we know the big parameters to adjust to make it work better uh but it’s also close to a not in the sense that we we there’s some iterations to have to be made for each each
55:00 – Innovations made to packaging because of the scale and the the requirements...
without the know the all the chemicals and the curing and or the complicated Coatings and so on on 3D shapes uh a third one we we walk on are release liners to replace a silicon um because it’s something that under some reactive Coatings um basically we can have a very very low surface energy similar to silicons to some degree um but that is repulp
66:00 – stage startups and there not that many Venture fonts focused on packaging...
best time you know with different uh Banks you know falling and the the the Venture funds reducing the the investment especially on early stage startups and there not that many Venture fonts focused on packaging as well so the pool is pretty limited so basically last year we we we expected to do the fundraising and be stop being pilot and we Bally
77:00 – others um to to buy buy packaging industry for different products uh...
projects but I for Hans Peter I I felt someone was missing in the team um so these were already big names right but some someone was making from the paper making side um that is in in the end the the core substrate we walk on right um and of course you know we talked about replacing sing agent and so on and also we were we needed someone with a lot
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