Good Garbage with Ved Krishna: Closures for a Cleaner Planet with Lars Sandberg - Pakka
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Good Garbage with Ved Krishna: Closures for a Cleaner Planet with Lars Sandberg
Group Lead, Ved Krishna

Hello, hello! We’re continuing strong in 2025 as we welcome the CEO of Blue Ocean Closures, Lars Sandberg in our second episode of this year! With a mechanical engineering background and a speciality in paper and pulp, Lars used his expertise in fibre to create cellulose bases closures. These c

0:00 – the the paper industry and the the processes in the paper industry...

hello hello I’m so happy today to have a conversation with Lars sber the CEO of blue ocean closures uh and Lars uh I think the challenge is that most people don’t realize how complicated closures are they may be this little thing but they create Havoc so I’m so happy to have you on the show and excited to have this conversation and learn much more

8:00 – FP Innovations so the the Canadian packaging and Forest Products Institute lovely...

but also user innovation in the in the name of U Eric Von hipple us researcher that it’s kind of brought that forward uh seeing uh basically saying that most new things comes from users the lung and heart machine was not invented by a company W building lung and heart machines obviously because there were none it was invented by a doctor who who ne

16:00 – 2 uh which if you compare it to normal cotton board which is maybe...

if we could improve the delivery model basically making it more efficient seeing the challenges of of integrating all of these processes into one machine we wanted to see if we could separate them and we looked at that in different ways separating the the fiber treatment or separating the the pre making of a mat or or whatever and uh we came to the

24:00 – Market instead of of trying to bring a technology to Market that's...

liner exactly as it’s done in metal closures or in other closures and uh we can just use the mechanical properties of the of the fibers basically to achieve this so it’s not cheating but it’s it’s choosing a path where we can find some products that can come quickly to Market and uh in just two and a half year we had the first products out on the S

32:00 – then you know the kind of challenges this is one challenge that...

molding and the little exposure I have one of the challenges I’m always told is the degree the angle you know because each time you’re pressing a thick sheet you’re kind of creating that Force by which you know you’re you’re also pulling in a lot of fiber uh in the in a certain area especially in a closure it is almost at a probably at a right angl

40:00 – is with standard products so we have a number of standard products...

think that is one of the first but that also means a lot of development from their side to to achieve their part of the equation basically uh and uh I think dependent on how you make the bottle if it’s done in injection molding uh as as most bottles or or tops are done then uh uh you create something that is quite exact also on the plastic side uh

48:00 – combine a paper bottle and paper uh close and and and recycle...

about it you always have different materials in the bottle and in the closure if it’s your normal P bottle it’s a polypropylene or polyethylene cap for that uh your metal and glass is combined uh metal and plastic is combined and you don’t think so much about it so we just see this as one more way that Brands can differentiate and create something

56:00 – Market uh as a converter in a quite straightforward and boring business...

electricity to to to get it up and running uh it’s not too complex meaning that you can use uh operators without too much training and uh so so we we are we’re preparing to to scale in in that way of course if someone in the when we approving the concept want to do something like plant imp plant or licensing in a far location or something like that

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